Pavel Tsatsouline on Andrew Huberman Lab Podcast

It's always a treat when Pavel Tsatsouline is a guest on a major podcast.

I had lots of people asking me about kettlebell training after his episode on Joe Rogan's podcast in 2019/2020.

I imagine many more people will be introduced to his books, training philosophies, and kettlebells as a result of his recent episode on Andrew Huberman's podcast.

I definitely don't agree with ALL of Pavel's views on training, and I don't love some of his minimalist programs (I like a more balanced approach to maximize muscle and strength, along with other fitness/athletic qualities). But I think he's a very intelligent, likeable guy and he's been very influential in my coaching and lifting career.

Anyone can adopt his training methods and see better gains and make fitness more accessible and sustainable.

Much of what I practice and teach (or maybe just preach), I learned from Pavel's videos, books, and articles back when I first started getting into kettlebells back in 2017.

Things like grease the groove (which I just shared more about yesterday), hardstyle lifting technique, wedging cues, time efficient warmup routines, and simple program structures all were introduced – or at least further ingrained – by Pavel's work.

In fact, pre-2017 I was a big barbell guy. But my barbell training was not designed well. Too much volume, too much intensity, too much frequency. I ended up plateaued and always hurting – eventually suffering chronic and debilitating injury. Pavel's approach to barbell training was a Godsend, and I regret not finding his work earlier.

You don't have to agree with all of his opinions and views on training (again, I don't), but you can certainly learn and apply some great lessons from his books and interviews.